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So -- And I'm still getting over the shock of all of this, but just tell me a little bit about why you have been thinking about AI voices and why you think that these developments are worth paying attention to.
我现在都依然很震惊，不过跟我说说你为什么一直在思考人工智能语音，以及为什么你认为这些发展值得关注。
Well, obviously, they've gotten really good, and that is really amazing and shocking and maybe a little bit upsetting, but I'm personally most interested in it because I'm interested in what it does to us as humans when computers sound like us.
很明显，人工智能语音已经发展的很好了，这令人震惊，也有点令人沮丧，但我个人对它感兴趣，是因为我想知道，当计算机能发出像人类一样的声音时，它会对我们产生什么影响。
How does it change how we interact with them? How does it change what we can do with them?
它会如何改变我们与人工智能的交互方式？如何改变我们对它的处理方式？
You know, it's kind of like both a leap forward for our ability to interact with computers in a way that feels normal and natural.
这就像是我们与电脑互动能力的一次飞跃，而且这种飞跃方式正常又自然。
It opens new doors for, like, helping us learn things and get information.
它为我们打开了新的大门，帮助我们学习和获取信息。
It's a new way for people also to feel maybe not as lonely in the world if they feel like they can interact naturally with a computer.
这是一种新方式，如果人们觉得自己可以与电脑自然地互动，他们在这个世界上可能就不会觉得那么孤独了。
So, you know, it's amazing, and it also is a little bit disarming, like, you can forget in certain ways that you're talking to a computer, and that has all sorts of potential negative consequences to that we should sort of think about.
所以，这很神奇，它也能够卸除铠甲，在某种程度上，你会忘掉自己是在和电脑说话，这会带来各种潜在的负面后果，我们都应该考虑到。
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, obviously, we've had conversations -- a lot of conversations over the last couple of years about these developments in AI and AI and audio and video and I, I mean, I was under the impression that they were getting better, but I felt like I could always tell what was an AI voice and what was a real voice.
嗯，是的。很明显，在过去的几年里，关于人工智能、音频和视频的发展，我们有过很多对话，我是说，我的印象是它们正在变得越来越好，但我觉得任何时候我都能分辨出人工智能和真实人类的声音。
And clearly, that's not the case anymore, from what I just heard. Like, I don't -- I think this stuff has gotten really, really good really fast.
但很明显，从我刚才听到的音频来看，现在我已经区分不了了。这东西发展的真的太快太快了。
Can you talk a little bit about those improvements, like how good AI audio is now and how widespread it is?
你能谈谈这些改进吗，比如现在的AI音频有多好，有多普及？
Yeah. Well, one of the things that happened really in the last couple of months, you know, we've gotten used to now over the last two years having chat bots in our lives. Right?
嗯。过去几个月发生了一件事，在过去两年里，我们已经习惯了生活中的聊天机器人。对吧？
Those are things that you can text back and forth with.
你可以跟聊天机器人对话。
And you -- we kind of now know, like, what they're good at, what they're bad at, and how to laugh at them when they do silly things.
现在我们知道了他们擅长什么，不擅长什么，以及当他们做傻事时如何嘲笑他们。
But in the last couple of months, all of these chat bots that are available to us as consumers -- ChatGPT, Gemini from Google, Meta AI from the Facebook people, Copilot from Microsoft -- they've all gotten advanced voice modes, where they can do a lot more things that sound like normal humans do.
但过去几个月里，消费者能接触到的所有聊天机器人——谷歌的ChatGPT、Gemini、Facebook的Meta AI、微软的Copilot——它们都有了先进的语音模式，它们可以做很多听起来像人类才能做的事。
They have been able to ape the sort of intonations of normal human speech, and then also respond so quickly that they really are pretending to be human in certain ways.
它们已经能够模仿正常人类说话的语调，反应速度也很快，在某些方面真的是在假装人类。
I'd love to show you kind of what that sounds like.
我很乐意给你展示一下它是什么样的。
Oh, sure. I'll brace myself for more -- for more shocks.
哦，当然。我已经准备好接受更多冲击了。
So here -- I'm going to use the new ChatGPT. Hey there.
这里，我用的是新的ChatGPT。嘿。
Hey there. How's it going?
哈喽，最近怎么样啊？
Pretty good. Hey, could you help me settle a debate? Which city is better -- Washington, D.C., or San Francisco?
挺好的。你能帮我解决一场辩论吗？哪个城市更好——华盛顿特区还是旧金山？
Ooh, a classic showdown. It really depends on what you're looking for. D.C. has that political vibe with all the monuments and museums. It's got a lot of history and a more traditional East Coast --
哦，这是个经典对决啊。这取决于你想要什么，华盛顿有很多纪念碑和博物馆，很有政治氛围。它有着悠久的历史和更传统的东海岸
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's a swamp. I mean, who wants to live in a swamp?
对，对，但那里是一片沼泽。谁愿意住在沼泽里呀？
Ouch, Geoff.
哎哟，杰夫。
D.C.'s summer humidity can be a bit much. San Francisco has that cool, foggy weather, plus the iconic Golden Gate Bridge and vibrant tech scene. If you prefer milder temperatures and the laid-back vibe, San Fran--
华盛顿特区纽约的夏季可能有点潮湿。旧金山的天气凉爽多雾，还有标志性的金门大桥和充满活力的科技场所。如果你喜欢温和的气候和悠闲的氛围，旧金山
Okay, what I want to know is when you come to San Francisco, do you wear flowers in your hair?
好吧，我想知道你来旧金山的时候，是要在头上插朵花吗？
