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But really, the economic reasons are that you want to have food
但事实上，经济原因是你想有食物
and you want to feed your family, you want to take care of your family.
并且养活你的家人，你想照顾你的家人。
And that is the basic reason for illegal immigration. And the people are so desperate.
这也是非法移民最重要的一个原因。人们是如此绝望。
There is no food at home or the home village is all shot up. And so you head for the lifeboat.
家里没有吃的，或者家乡被毁。因此，你请求救生艇。
What kind of people will we become if we turn them away?
如果我们赶他们走，我们会变成什么人?
Guest: Its sort of cultural ethnic cleansing that's happening here, now. That's what upsets me.
客人:在这里，现在文化遭到清洗，那是为什么使我难过的。
Jim Carroll: This woman's comment is that there is a kind of cultural ethnic cleansing happening now. Gish?
吉姆:这位女士说现在这里还有一种文化的清洗是吗?任?
Gish Jen: You know, I'll say sort of an unpopular thing because obviously I am pro-immigration.
任碧莲:你知道的，我会说一点不受欢迎的话因为明显我支持移民。
Guest: I am.
客人:我也是。
Gish Jen: I know, I know. I'm just saying that my father was an illegal immigrant also;
任碧莲:我知道，我只想说我爸爸也是一个非法移民;
was not legal until I was in grade school. I'm not unsympathetic.
直到我上学才摘掉非法的帽子 我并不是不同情。
But I will say that I can understand why others are freaked out. And I can understand it.
但我想说我明白为什么别人会为此而受惊扰，并且我能理解。
You know, I just heard a statistic the other day, where our unemployment is 10% overall.
我不久前一天，刚刚看过一个统计，我们这儿总共的失业率是10%。
Between 18 and 30 year olds the unemployment is 25%. That's a lot of unemployed people.
18岁到30岁的失业率是25%，有许多失业人口。
And that's in, and I also heard something where, not that someone's authority is always unimpeachable.
那是问题所在，我也听说某人的权力是不可质疑的。
Larry Summers said, apparently, I know our favorite pundit.
《赖瑞的夏天》说过，显然，我知道我们喜欢的人。
Larry Summers apparently said something, looking at the numbers;
里面还明确地指出某事，看数字;
we could be looking at the end of the middle class in America because the income disparity is growing so large.
我们可以看看在美国，中产阶级的结果因为收入差距越来越大。
And he's predicting that past a certain point, there's only going to be poor people and rich people.
并且他批评过去的某一点，只有穷人和富人。
And I think that the middle class feels that. I don't know that he's right,
并且中产阶级能感觉到，我不认为他是对的。
but what I do think is that the middle class is under a lot of pressure.
但我也认为中产阶级生活在巨大的压力下。
And I think that in combination with the fact that we're hard-wired, sadly, to be tribal.
我想结合我们天生群居的事实。
I mean, I think that all the studies that are coming out about oxytocin, you know the nursing hormone,
我认为所有的研究出来对催产素，你知道护理激素，
as soon as you feel that great flood of oxytocin that you feel brotherly love.
你一旦感受到洪水般的催产素你就会感到亲切的爱。
