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多年来，我们一直在质疑一个问题：那就是在使用强制手段进行审讯的时候，道德和法律的界限在哪里？针对这一问题，芝加哥大学法学院邀请了来自各个领域的学者进行了探讨。
adj. 动态的，动力的，有活力的
n. 动力
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- Is what we see is the outcome, I think CBT falls short of the need for this and maybe dynamic does as well.
- 我们看到的是结果我认为CBT无法满足这个要求动态疗法可能也做不到
- It's not so much based on early childhood experience but the relationship is key,
- 它不是很大程度上建立在早期童年经历上其中关系是关键
- the relationship is where the safety begins to emerge, as maybe was illustrated in that story
- 安全感就是从这种关系中出现的可能那个故事也能说明这一点
- where I went to the guy's wedding and then he could talk about it
- 我去了他的婚礼然后他可以谈论折磨
- because of what was happening between us, um, again that wasn't my plan but you learn as you go.
- 因为我们之间所发生了这些事情我再强调，这并不是我的计划，但是你们可以从中学习
- Thank you. Yeah. Martha. I wanted to ask you about the role of anger in the therapy.
- 谢谢你，不用谢。玛莎。我想请教你愤怒在治疗中的作用
- I mean one might think that um the antidote an antidote to the shame and humiliation and the destruction of the personality
- 有人认为愤怒是解药可以对抗羞愧感和耻辱感要摧毁人格可以
- would be to get the person to be angry at the people who did it to them and say this just wasn't right,
- 让人们憎恨那些对他们施暴的人说这么做不是对的
- I have a right to be treated with dignity and so on
- 我有权得到有尊严的对待，等等
- and also for you as therapist the anger might prevent who did it to them and say this just wasn't right,
- 对于你来说，治疗师，愤怒可能阻止某种抑郁感和分崩离析感的产生
- setting in. I just wondered what you think about that?
- 我想了解你的看法?
- Yeah the anger, often I find is greater on our side as the therapist.
- 是的，我常常发现我们作为治疗师，反而愤怒感更强烈
- It's like other trauma, um, when a woman is raped or when a child is abused,
- 这像是另一种创伤当一个妇女被强奸，儿童被虐待
- they find their first stance often is to blame themselves for it
- 他们的第一个反应就是责备自己
- and they don't reach a point of anger er even when a woman has been raped
- 他们不会到达愤怒的程度甚至是一个遭到强奸的女性
- she can say somehow I feel dirty, er, somehow I shouldn't have put myself in this situation,
- 她会说，我觉得自己很脏我不能再想象那个场景
- somehow it was my fault and sometimes society colludes with that too.
- 这是我的错有时候社会和施虐者串通一气
- The same thing with victims of torture.
- 折磨的受害者也是这样
- They blame themselves for it, that I shouldn't have done it this way, or I shouldn't have done it that way.
- 他们责怪自己我不应该这么做我不应该那么做
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