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Todd: So Marianne, we're going to talk about education, and we're going to talk about the qualities of a good and bad teacher. And I'm a teacher so this is important for me, so I'm going to be taking notes. What do you think makes a good teacher?
托德：玛丽安，我们来谈谈教育，重点讨论一下好老师和坏老师的特质。我是名老师，这对我来说非常重要，我要记笔记。你认为好老师的标准是什么？
Marianne: I have no idea. No, I'm kidding. Okay, so I have to remember like when I was in junior high school or high school for example, my good teachers, how were they. I think a good teacher has to be strict. Insisting sometimes because you can be lazy, or as a student it could be difficult to understand what the teacher is talking about. So the teacher really have to insist on very important things. And yes, the teacher has to be strict. But at the same time, the teacher-student relationship should be kind of equal or respectful. So the teach is not – of course, he is or she is superior because he has or she has knowledge. But it could be nice if the teacher can interact with the student. So if the student is able to give his opinion or her opinion about the subject the teacher is talking about, I think it's nice. Because I think the teacher, his responsibility or her responsibility is to raise critical thinking of the student. So it's very important this time of interaction of exchange between teachers and students. So yes, it could be my definition like the teacher being strict but at the same time being open to talk about subjects.
玛丽安：我不知道。我开个玩笑。我还记得我上初中还是高中时遇到的优秀老师。我认为好老师一定要很严格。而且还要坚持，因为学生可能很懒，或者很难理解老师的话。这时老师必须要求学生做一些非常重要的事情。老师一定要严格。不过同时，老师和学生的关系应该是平等的，是互相尊重的。虽然老师处于更高级别，因为老师在传授知识。但是如果老师能和学生良好互动的话会产生不错的效果。如果学生能对老师讲授的课程提出自己的看法，也会产生良好的效果。我认为老师的责任是培养学生的批判性思维。所以，老师和学生的互动和交流非常重要。我认为好老师就是既要严格，又可以接受学生对课程的意见。
Todd: All right. Those are some good points. But going back to being strict, can you be specific? Do you mean like making sure they do their home work.
托德：好。这是不错的观点。说回严格，你能具体解释一下吗？你的意思是老师要确保学生完成作业吗？
Marianne: Yes.
玛丽安：对。
Todd: Making sure they're on time to class.
托德：确保学生按时上课。
Marianne: Yes. And punish them if they are late for example, like...
玛丽安：对。如果学生迟到，要接受处罚，比如……
Todd: Oh, punishment. Okay.
托德：哦，处罚。好。
Marianne: I mean, like say something like, you know, like you have an appointment. It's very important. For example, you have English class at 2:00 so be here at 2:00 and not 2:05. So it's very important because you have to show respect for the person who would deliver you content about English. And it's very important because it helps you in your life to – even for yourself, for the student, it's not only to show respect to teacher but it's also for the student to – for him or her to be able to keep her schedule. It's very important in life because otherwise you can spend your life being always late and not doing things on time. But if you are always behaving this way, then you can never build anything in life. So you have to have also for yourself some strict attitude or strict capacity or I don't know how to say.
玛丽安：我的意思是说，这就像约定一样，非常重要。比如，英语课是2点开始，所以你要在2点到这里，而不应该在2点05分才来。这非常重要，因为你要向传授英语知识的那个人展现尊重。而且这对你的生活甚至你本人都有帮助，所以非常重要，作为学生，你不仅要向老师展现尊重，你还要能执行计划。这在生活中非常重要，除非你能一直过着可以随意迟到或不用准时的生活。但是，如果你要一直这样生活，那你一生将一事无成。你要有严谨的态度和严谨的能力，我也不知道应该如何说明。
Todd: No, that's perfect. Sounds good. How about some bad things? Have you had some bad teachers in the past?
托德：你说得很好。听上去不错。那不好的特质呢？你以前有没有遇上过不好的老师？
Marianne: Yes. Like for example, a teacher who are just strict and that's it, like there is no communication possible with them. It's terrible. For example, I remember when I was in junior high school, I had an art teacher actually, she was our art teacher and nobody liked her. She was just terrible like a very strict woman and very angry every time we went to attend her class. And I remembered I was really terrified by her. And for me, she didn't teach me anything. So this kind of strict attitude was not really helpful for me.
玛丽安：有。举个例子，有的老师非常严格，但是却没法沟通。这非常糟糕。我记得我上初中时，有一个艺术老师，她教我们艺术课程，但是没有学生喜欢她。她太糟糕了，她非常严格，我们每次上她的课，她都在生气。我记得当时我非常怕她。我认为，她什么都没有教我。这种严格的态度对我没有帮助。
Todd: Yeah. I like that. So strict but not too strict.
托德：嗯，我也喜欢这样，要严格，但不要过于严格。
Marianne: Yeah. Strict, it means in the sense that making the other responsible. Like an adult has to show teenagers that they will become future responsible adults, too. So they are not just like kids and you just don't say to your kids for example, "Don't eat this," and that's it. If you can just say to your children, "Don't eat this because you can be sick if you eat too much of this." Like you have to give them a reason or you have to make them responsible. They have to understand actually.
玛丽安：对。严格，在这种意义上来说就是教导他人负责。成年人应该告诉青年人，他们未来也会成为负责任的大人。他们不能只是向对孩子那样，不能跟孩子说：“不要吃这个”。你可以跟孩子说：“不要吃这个，如果你吃太多的话会生病的。”你要给他们理由，或让他们自己承担责任。他们一定要明白这一点。
Todd: No, I totally agree. Very, very good points.
托德：我完全同意你的观点。你说得非常好。
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