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One question, I have one question for you about listening, so when our listeners go and choose material for listening, practice for Ielts or just for general learning, what do you think, Jessica?
一个问题，我有一个关于听力的问题要问你，那么当我们的听众去选择听力材料时，是选择专门的雅思书还是只是一般学习就行，你怎么看，杰西卡？
What percentage of the material should they aim to understand like, should they just, what's your thought on that?
他们应该以理解多少为目标呢，比如说，他们应该，你对此有什么看法？
That's a good question. I think the most important thing is to be honest with themselves that 100 percent is not gonna happen. You know.
这是个好问题。我认为最重要的是要对自己诚实，即100%是不可能的。你知道的。
Students get really discouraged when they can't understand every word, but you know what you're not a native speaker and understanding every word should not be your goal right now.
学生们在不能理解每个单词时会非常沮丧，但是你知道吗，你不是母语者，理解每个单词不应该是你现在的目标。
You have to have an attainable goal, something that is honest that you can achieve in the near future.
你必须有一个可实现的目标，一个诚实的、你在不久的将来能够实现的目标。
So depending on your level of study and how long you've been studying, maybe just start with understanding the general idea, you know, and if you can get the general idea of what they're talking about, awesome, good job, and then you know, 2 months from now try and understand maybe half of what they're saying.
所以，根据你的学习水平和学习时间，也许可以先从理解大意开始，如果你能理解他们在说的大意，那就太棒了，做得好，然后你知道的，从现在开始2个月后，试着理解他们所说的一半内容。
Yeah, it's always a tough balance, isn't it?
是的，这总是一个很难达到的平衡，不是吗？
Because listeners they want to or learners, they need to find something that's going to stay motivating for them so they want to understand just enough so that they stay motivated but not too much so that it's too easy.
因为听众，或者说学习者，他们想要或需要找到一些能让他们保持动力的东西，所以他们想要可以理解的材料，既能保持动力，又不会太容易。
Right? Yeah, tricky.
对吧？是啊，很棘手。
I think they really have to think about what type of material they're choosing to listen to as well.
我认为他们也真的必须考虑他们选择听的是什么类型的材料。
So if you're say intermediate to upper intermediate and you're just beginning to try and strengthen your listening skills, don't download a TED talk, don't I mean, don't, don't go for like the most difficult thing.
所以如果你是中高级水平，并且你才刚刚开始尝试加强你的听力技能，不要下载TED演讲，我的意思是，不要，不要去追求最难的东西。
Try sitcoms, you know. Try a sitcom where you can turn on the subtitles and read it in English as well.
试试情景喜剧，你知道的。试试一部情景喜剧，在那里你可以打开字幕，同时也可以用英语阅读。
Try podcasts like All Ears English that are made for non-native speakers.
尝试像All Ears English这样为非母语人士制作的播客。
Mm hmm and I know one good podcast for more beginner or beginner to intermediate listeners is ESL Pod.
嗯，我知道一个适合初学者或初级到中级听众的好播客，是ESL Pod。
That's a nice One that a lot of listeners really like because it's quite slow. It's great.
那是一个非常好的播客，很多听众都非常喜欢，因为它的节奏相当缓慢。非常棒。
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so there's lots of stuff out there.
是的，是的，是的，所以外面有很多东西。
Yeah yeah, I think there's another breaking news English that you uses real authentic news articles but reads it very slowly.
是的，是的，我想还有另一个“最新新闻英语”，你使用真正的真实新闻文章，但读得非常慢。
I like that, I like that, sometimes it's good to balance with some more kind of high beginner intermediate level content and then stretch yourself to something harder.
我喜欢这样，我喜欢这样，有时候用一些更像是高中级水平的内容来平衡一下是很好的，然后再挑战一些更难的东西。
Yeah, let me ask you one more question about the test here, Jessica, so if our listeners want to maximize their time and if they only have a short time to prepare for the IELTS, what's the most effective thing they can do?
是的，杰西卡，让我再问你一个关于考试的问题，如果我们的听众想最大限度地利用他们的时间，如果他们只有很短的时间来准备雅思考试，他们能做的最有效的事情是什么？
Like how should they spend their time? Well, that's a tough question.
就像他们应该如何度过他们的时间？嗯，这是一个棘手的问题。
I think you first have to make an honest plan with yourself.
我认为你首先得为自己制定一个诚实的计划。
So for example, if you are taking the test in one month, then sit down and every day plan one test practice and one general English activity to do.
例如，如果你将在一个月内参加考试，那么每天坐下来计划一次考试练习和一次一般的英语活动。
For example, if Monday is your listening day, then you're going to watch 2 sitcoms and take notes while you watch it, and then for the test practice, go ahead and do a section one test practice online and just do that every day balance the general English with test practice and of course, give yourself a couple days off as well.
例如，如果周一是你的听力日，那么你要观看2部情景喜剧，并在观看时做笔记，然后进行测试练习，继续在网上做一个第一部分的测试练习，每天都这样做，平衡一般英语学习和测试练习，当然，也给自己放几天假。
Of course, right? I like that.I like that so you're integrating the practice with the work?
当然，对吧？我喜欢那样。我喜欢这样，所以你是在将实践与工作相结合吗？
You're not just saying we're gonna work for a week and then we're gonna take a test at the end of the week, a practice test at the end of the week.
你不是只是说我们要工作一周，然后在周末进行测试，在周末进行一次练习测试。
You're integrating the practice into the actual studying.
你正在将实践融入到实际的学习中。
Yeah, I think if you watch yourself get better as you go, then that helps to increase your confidence and if you're faced all of a sudden with a test at the end and you don't know what to expect, then you're not gonna do as well, so just get used to things slowly, I guess.
是的，我认为如果你看到自己在进步，这会有助于增强你的信心，如果你突然面临期末考试，而你不知道会发生什么，那么你就不会做得很好，所以我想你要慢慢习惯这些事情。
Absolutely,wow, this has been great. Thank you so much for this advice, Jessica.
当然，哇，这太棒了。非常感谢你的建议，杰西卡。
We're so excited we're gonna be focusing guys on ITLES for the next couple of episodes and we're looking forward to having conversations with you guys, our listeners about what your biggest challenges are with ITLES.
我们非常激动，接下来的几集我们将关注ITLES，我们期待与你们，我们的听众，进行对话，了解你们在ITLES方面面临的最大挑战是什么。
