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In today's episode you'll hear from Jessica Beck, the Examiner of Excellence, and she'll tell you what the one key is to passing the IELTS exam.
在今天的节目中，优秀雅思考官杰西卡·贝克将会告诉你通过雅思考试的关键是什么。
Hey, Jessica, how's it going? Fantastic. I'm having a really good day actually, how are you ? I'm glad to hear that. I'm having a great day. Very good day.
嘿，杰西卡，最近怎么样？太棒了。我今天过得真的很好，你呢？很高兴听到你这么说。我今天过得很棒。非常好的一天。
Yeah, and I'm excited to be here today to talk with you about the IELTS exam. Yeah, there are so many questions about IELTS. It's not the easiest test to take.
是的，我很高兴今天能在这里和你谈论雅思考试。是的，关于雅思考试有很多问题。它不是一个容易的考试。
It's not the easiest test, but a lot of people are taking it nowadays. Isn't that true? Tons.
这并不是个简单的考试，但现在有很多人都在报考。不是吗？非常多。
It's actually designed by Cambridge in England and IDP in Australia, and it's the most widely accepted test to get into universities that teach in English, so university is in any English speaking country accept IELTS now.
实际上，它是由英国剑桥和澳大利亚IDP设计的，是进入以英语授课的大学最广泛接受的考试，所以现在任何英语国家的大学都接受雅思。
Interesting, interesting, that's good to know and what about also professionals do some professionals end up taking it to get jobs in different parts of the world too? Oh, for sure.
有趣，有趣，很高兴知道这些，那么专业人士呢？是否有些专业人士最终也通过它在世界各地找到了工作？ 哦，当然。
Interestingly enough immigration also requires people to take IELTS before they moved to Australia or England.
有趣的是，移民也要求人们在搬到澳大利亚或英国之前参加雅思考试。
Like if you're gonna be a nurse in another country even if you already speak English, you have to take the IELTS test and yeah, more and more employers as they realize the level they need from their employees like the English level has to be pretty high now, so TOWIC doesn't always cut it and IELTS is more difficult.
就比如说，如果你要去另一个国家当护士，即使你已经会说英语，你也必须参加雅思考试。是的，越来越多的雇主意识到他们对员工的要求，比如英语水平必须非常高，所以托福并不总是能满足要求，而雅思则更难。
It tests more academic English, so yeah, even employers are starting to require it now right?
它测试的是更学术性的英语，所以是的，甚至现在雇主也开始要求要有雅思了，对吧？
And does Ielts really test those spoken communication skills more even than TOEFL? Would you say or is it about the same? Oh no, I'm I'm I'm on the IELTS side for sure. I think I think it's a more valid exam.
雅思真的比托福更能测试口语交流能力吗？你会这么说吗？还是说差不多？哦不，我肯定是站雅思这一边的。我认为这是一个更有效的考试。
I mean, how often in your life do you sit and talk to a computer and record yourself? Oh, good point. Yeah, that doesn't happen.
我的意思是，在你的生活中，你多久会坐下来和电脑交谈并录下自己？哦，说得好。是的，这种情况不会发生。
I mean you're not gonna close a deal by staring at a computer and recording a voice memo or something. It's in person. It's face to face. That's a really good point. Yeah, so I think the IELTS test is in that way.
我的意思是，你不可能通过盯着电脑、录个语音备忘录之类的东西就达成交易。你得亲自出马。得面对面。这一点说得很对。是的，所以我认为雅思考试也是这样。
I think it's easier than TOEFL because it's more real. I mean, you're talking to a real person. You're writing with pen and paper.
我觉得它比托福容易，因为它更真实。我的意思是，你是在和一个真实的人交谈。你是用笔和纸在写作。
So yeah, I think actually it's a valid test of one's English level. Yeah, I mean, you're right.
所以，是的，我认为实际上这是对一个人英语水平的有效测试。是的，我是说，你是对的。
We don't talk to computers to make business deals or to make friends, you know to establish, you know, any kind of exchange or relationship, so it doesn't make sense to test our ability to talk to a computer.
我们不会与计算机交谈来达成商业交易，不会计算机交朋友，你知道的，或建立任何一种交流或关系，所以测试我们与计算机交谈的能力是没有意义的。
It makes more sense to integrate the nonverbal skills and the eye contact and make it a real speaking situation in the exam. Yeah exactly.
将非语言技能和眼神交流结合起来，在考试中营造一个真实的说话场景，这样做更有意义。是的，确实如此。
And um, that's I think it helps, It helps students as well when they get to the test if they meet the examiner and they realize that this is a real person and she or he is not here to, you know, make me nervous or ask me really tough questions.
嗯，我认为这很有帮助，当学生参加考试时，如果他们见到了考官，他们会意识到这是一个真实的人，而他或她不是来让我紧张或问我非常难的问题的，这对学生也有帮助。
They're actually just there to have a conversation with you and see how well you speak, so that was one of my questions for you.
他们实际上只是在那里和你交谈，看看你说得有多好，所以这是我对你的问题之一。
I mean sometimes a lot of students that I work with, not for IELTS, but just for general English skills say that they tend to freeze up when they're in front of a native speaker, so I was wondering which could be more nerve wracking, you know, the computer or just being in front of the real person, but I guess it's generally the computer.
我的意思是，有时候很多和我一起学习的学生，不是为了雅思，只是为了提高一般英语能力，他们说当他们面对母语人士时，他们往往会僵住，所以我想知道哪一个更让人伤脑筋，你知道，是电脑还是只是面对真人，但我猜通常是电脑。
Oh, for sure, I think maybe before they're taking the exam, they think it's gonna be easier to talk to a computer. Maybe they will.
哦，当然，我想也许在他们参加考试之前，他们认为和电脑交谈会更容易。也许他们会这样想。
You know what I mean like they won't get nervous or they won't feel shy because they're not talking to a real person, but I think it's just so fake and so real and it's not something we ever do then that makes it a lot harder to be successful at.
你知道我的意思，就像他们不会紧张，也不会感到害羞，因为他们不是在和一个真正的人交谈，但我认为这太假了，太不真实了，我们从来没这样做，这使得成功变得更加困难。
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
是的，是的，当然。
Yeah, and yeah on the Ielts test there's 3 parts of the speaking test and the first part is the easiest question, so it really is just there to get the student relaxed, you know, and just have a conversation like: do you enjoy shopping?What mall do you go to? stuff like that. So they kind of ease you into it then.
是的，雅思考试的口语测试有三个部分，第一部分是最简单的问题，所以它真的只是为了让学生放松，你知道的，就像这样的对话：你喜欢购物吗？你去哪个商场？诸如此类的问题。所以他们会让你慢慢适应。
Yeah, yeah, it's not just tough scientific questions, it's mostly just a conversation. Good, good, that's great.
是的，是的，这不是棘手的科学问题，这只是一次对话。很好，很好，太好了。
Well, we can definitely help our listeners with that, in that case excellent.
嗯，在这种情况下，我们肯定可以帮助我们的听众。
And so why do most people not get the score that they need?
那么，为什么大多数人没有得分呢？
I think it's because they don't have balanced practice.
我认为这是因为他们没有进行平衡练习。
Honestly, I think I think students tend to go in extreme directions.
老实说，我认为学生往往会走向极端。
Either, they're doing too much of the textbook which I know that you've been talking about on the other podcast, right?
要么，他们做了太多的课本内容，我知道你在另一个播客上也谈到过这个问题，对吧？
And that's a really big mistake actually, when you're doing test prep because in order to do well on IELTS or any test for that matter, you of course have to study the test and use practice test books, but you also have to balance that practice with real life English, talking to native speakers, watching movies, listening to music, reading the newspaper.
这实际上是一个非常大的错误，当你在准备考试时，因为为了在雅思或任何考试中取得好成绩，你当然必须研究考试并使用练习题册，但你还必须将这种练习与现实生活中的英语相平衡，与母语人士交谈，看电影，听音乐，阅读报纸。
All of those things will help you score higher on the IELTS test.
所有这些事情都会帮助你在雅思考试中获得更高的分数。
Okay, so balancing out your preparation and making sure you're kind of integrating all the skills. That makes sense, I like that. It's easy to get sucked into a textbook, Right?
好的，平衡你的准备工作，确保你把所有技能融会贯通。有道理，我喜欢，很容易被教科书吸引，对吧？
I mean it's it's kind of low pressure and we can stay home and we can just do it, and maybe it doesn't cause us to kind of face our fears. Right?
我的意思是，这是一种低压力的方式，我们可以待在家里这样做，也许这不会导致我们恐惧。对吧？
Because we know we all have fears when it comes to speaking a new language, but in the end, yeah, right.
因为我们知道，当我们说一门新语言时，我们都会感到恐惧，但最终，是的，没错。
Yeah, of course, and speaking as a textbook author, I think we make promises that the textbooks can't keep sometimes.
是的，当然，作为一名教科书作者，我认为我们有时会做出教科书无法兑现的承诺。
Okay, so don't always trust the cover that says that this book is all you need because it's not true. It's good marketing.
好的，所以不要总是相信封面上说的这本书就是你所需要的一切，因为这不是真的。这只是很好的营销手段。
I think I just gave away a secret, but my books are good, just kidding. Oh, that's so funny, that's so funny. Hey, I mean they have to sell textbooks right? So interesting.
我想我刚刚泄露了一个秘密，但是我的书很好，只是开个玩笑。哦，太有趣了，太有趣了。嘿，我的意思是他们必须卖教科书，对吧？太有意思了。
So what are some of the main issues that listeners should actually think about when they prep for Ielts? Let's get down to it.
那么，听众在准备雅思考试时实际上应该考虑哪些主要问题呢？让我们谈谈这个吧。
What should they think about doing when they prepare?
当他们准备时，他们应该考虑什么？
Sure,so you should have an integrated practice like you just mentioned, but you also have to take the test part by part.
当然，所以你应该有一个像你刚才提到的综合练习，但你也必须一部分一部分地参加考试。
So for listening, for example you really just have to have a strong, strong level of comprehension.
因此，例如对于听力，你真的只需要有很强、很强的理解水平。
So watching movies, listening to music, watching TV shows that will really help you also have to strengthen the ability to listen and write at the same time, which is really hard.
所以看电影、听音乐、看电视剧，这确实会帮助你，同时也必须加强听和写的能力，这真的很难。
The idea of note taking is really difficult for students and quite intimidating, so listening to a podcast and taking notes while you listen just that is gonna help improve your score on the listening tests and reading, same thing, read newspapers, read magazines, but you also have to strengthen your skills of skimming and scanning because the IELTS test is the reading is difficult.
记笔记对学生来说真的很难，而且相当令人生畏，所以听播客并在听的时候做笔记，这将有助于提高你在听力测试和阅读方面的分数，阅读也是一样，阅读报纸、杂志，但你还必须加强略读和快读的技能，因为雅思考试的阅读部分很难。
There is not enough time to read every word and answer the questions, like that's impossible even a native speaker cannot read everything and answer the question. really ?
没有足够的时间阅读每一个单词并回答问题，就像即使是母语人士也不可能阅读所有内容并回答问题一样。真的吗？
Yeah, yeah, okay, so the skimming and scanning skills are really important.
是的，是的，好的，所以略读和快读技能真的很重要。
