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And he a bit invest in oiling and gas deals and kind of staying at home, doing that sort of thing.
他在家投资石油、天然气之类的生意
And he, I think, was, was kind of ask him get back into something. And Mike and I hit it off very well.
我感觉他想干一番大事业，我俩聊得很投机
And so Mike said, "OK, I'll invest",
最后Mike答应投资
after a few weeks and I said "No, we don't want your money , we want you."
几周后我说我们不光要钱，我们希望你入伙
So we convince Mike to actually throw in with us, as an euqal partner.
于是Mike成了我们的合作伙伴
And so Mike put in some money, and Mike put in himself, and three of us went off.
他不仅投资，还参与创业，我们就这样起步了
We took this design, and it was virtually done as an Apple II, and tooled it up, and announced it, a few months later at the West Coast Computer Faire.
我们拿出Apple II的设计，召开新闻发布会，几个月后Apple II首次在西海岸计算机展览会上露面
What was that like?
情况怎么样？
It was great. We got the best, you know this West Coast Computer Faire was small at that time,
妙不可言，Apple II最受欢迎。那时西海岸计算机展览会规模不大
but to us it was very large,
但对我们而言已经很大了
and, so we had this fantastic booth there, er, we had a projection television showing the Apple II and showing its graphics
。我们在展台上用投影展示Apple II和它的图形界面
which today look very cool but at that time were by far the most advanced graphics on the personal computer.
现在看有些简单，但当时是PC上最先进的图形界面
And I think, you know, my recollection is that we stole the show, and a lot of dealers and distributors started lining up and we were off and running.
我们出尽了风头，批发商和经销商蜂拥而至，进展非常顺利。
How old were you?
当时你多大？
21.
21
21? you were 21 and you were a big success, you have just sort of done it by the seat of your pants. You don’t have any particular training on this.
21岁就这么大成功。可你从来没有这方面的经验，完全是凭直觉
How do you learn to run a company?
你是怎么学会管理公司的？
