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Did you pass gym?
那体育考试通过了吗？
Good question. I don’t know if I failed gym or not. I don’t think I failed.
好问题。我也不知道我的体 育成绩是否及格了。我想应该及格了。
It sounds like even then you were kind of entrepreneurial.
听起来，那个时候你就很有企业家的气质了。
I always kind of just went ahead and tried things and one of the things I learned later you know, more kind of professionally—is that a lot of people don’t just go ahead and try things.
我经常会提前做一些事情， 提前尝试我之后会学到的东西一你知道，有点更专业性，很多人并不会提前去作一些尝试。
They’ll have an idea and they’ll say—they’ll convince themselves or other people will convince them that it can’t be done.
他们会有一个想法，会说——他们会被自己或者别人说服，认为这是不可能实现的。
You know, one or the other. Actually I think that the first is even more dangerous and more serious.
你知道，不是这个就是那个。事实上，我认为前者更危险、更严重。
It’s convincing yourself that it can’t be done.
就是你说服自己你的想法是行不通的。
And I never learned that for some reason, so I just kind of had this naive approach to~well, gee, you know, why not. I’ll just go ahead and do it.
由于某些原因，我并没有这样的概念，所以，我就是用这样有点幼稚的方法一嗯，你知道，为什么不呢。我会尝试去做一下。
We’ve read that early in high school that you wrote a program to print catalogue cards at six bucks an hour. Was that your start?
你早期在高中的时候写过印刷目录卡片的程序，每个小时6美元。那是你事业的开始吗？
That was my professional debut. Six bucks an hour.
那是我的专业技能的处女作。每个小时6美元。
And it’s funny too, thinking about it, because it was using computer technology to print out library cards for the card catalogue. And so all it was, was a program to just format.
想起来也很有趣。因为那是用电脑技术去给卡片目录 印刷图书卡片，就是排版程序而已。
You know, somebody would type in the information and it would format it the way the librarian wanted, so they could put the cards into the card catalogue.
你知道，有些人输入一些数据，就会像图 书管理人员希望的那样排版，这样他们 就可以把这些卡片放入卡片目录了。
So this is incredibly basic computer technology.
所以这是令人难以置信的基础电脑技术。
This is no database there. No search engine, nothing like that.
没有数据库。没有搜索引擎，没有任何类似的东西。
But yeah, six dollars an hour. And also, at that time I also worked on the software to help schedule classes, which was key.
但是，是的，每个小时6美元。同时，那时我还做软件帮忙做课表，这很关键。
This was in high school at tenth or 11th grade, I think, when I was working on that, and I resisted the temptation to put in some code in there to make sure I never had classes on Friday,
那时我是高中10年级 或是11年级，正在编课表。我禁受住了诱惑，没有通过一些编码的操作来保证自己星期五的时候不用上课，
because I wouldn’t have been able to get away with it, but I thought about it.
因为我不可能逃脱处罚，但我那样想过。
